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 Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:38 am Post subject: Night Fighting |
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Oh, wow! So who's got the arms to tote that? On top of the laser it has an IR illuminator so everyone with NVGs will be able to see your target. Yummy! I could mount it to the UMS lower rail I just ordered from my Tibby, but it looks like it would weight about twice as much as the pistol! 
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Raven
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I bet it weights lighter than you think |
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theJUDGE
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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I personally like the Gen1 nightvision scopes.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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How do you use Nightvision with a paintball mask on...the only way i would know how i could use one with my profilers are using a big screen to look at instead of the ones more like scopes.
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Mine came with a helmet/hed mount that will let it rest against my goggle lense, and it has an adjstable apeture to accomodate the extra distance from my eye. The bad thing is that when it'ss on my goggles will glow green slightly, and other people with NV will be able to see me a mile away.
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Dirdy
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Well ive seen in the movies where if you use night vision in a brightly lit room, night vision will look like a big white screen is that true? Becuase maybe we can have some fun blinding some people with Flashes on Camras or somthing lol.
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William SOS
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Dirdy wrote: | | Well ive seen in the movies where if you use night vision in a brightly lit room, night vision will look like a big white screen is that true? Becuase maybe we can have some fun blinding some people with Flashes on Camras or somthing lol. |
It depends on the Generation. Older models will typically get blinded by bright flashes, but many newer (and ultra-expensive) models can adjust to light above a given brightness. Your are less likely to face someone in paintball using such models, however, so you could rely on using flares, flash grenades and the like to temporarily blind people.
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Bulldog
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Yah, mine is a super cheap 1st gen unit, and is blinded by standard light. Going from the warnings in the manual, it can even be permanently damaged by sunlight.
If you see the green glow in someone's visor or a little red light from their IR illuminator, shine the brightest light you have in that direction and pour on the paint.
And back to Raven's comment: now that I've looked at it more closely, you're right- by the scale of the mounting rails it shouldn't be too huge at all.
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William SOS
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| Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:03 am Post subject: |
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A little trick is to have a small, Gen 1 hand unit. If it has a built-in IR illuminator, cover it up and use only the ambient light. That will let you see better at night, but it won't give you away. Spot the enemy location, alert your buddies and paint the area. The best part of this trick is that you will remain invisible to enemy NV users, but you can spot their own IR illuminators from a great distance.
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| A couple things about this topic, first the item pictured looks like a laser sight projector, if it is it is not authorized at 99% of the paintball events, second some of what was said about NVG's is not correct, cheaper NV devices will not blind or white out with light sources that most people carry, a portable spotlight moght do it but short of that flashlights and such will not, a flash strobe will just give your position away to everyone with and with out NVG's. using passive NVG's (not using the IR light) is the best way to move around without giving away your position, depending on what level of NVG's the other team is using. There are alot of teams getting NVG's now days and a great many are gen 2 or better. |
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William SOS
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| vgillam wrote: | | A couple things about this topic, first the item pictured looks like a laser sight projector, if it is it is not authorized at 99% of the paintball events, second some of what was said about NVG's is not correct, cheaper NV devices will not blind or white out with light sources that most people carry, a portable spotlight moght do it but short of that flashlights and such will not, a flash strobe will just give your position away to everyone with and with out NVG's. using passive NVG's (not using the IR light) is the best way to move around without giving away your position, depending on what level of NVG's the other team is using. There are alot of teams getting NVG's now days and a great many are gen 2 or better. |
True lasers aren't allowed at events because they can cause permanent damage to someone's eyes, which isn't worth the risk of the "coolness" factor. I agree with this policy.
Older flashlights won't cause a whiteout, since they do not have the power. Cheaper devices can be permanently damaged by natural sunlight. Various items can produce sufficient "candlepower" (used to rate light) to cause whiteouts and permanent damage, if the NVG isn't of a newer model that is designed to prevent damage.
You can buy newer flashlights that are in the 1-2 million candlepower range for pretty cheap. I've seen handheld spotlights go up to 10 million candlepower. For reference, on a clear day, sunlight is ~100,000 candlepower. If sunlight can permanently damage older NVG, then it stands to reason that newer man-made lights could do the same within a given range (candlepower is based on range). The standard distance to rate candlepower is 1'. MagLight measures at 10', however, so their lights are actually more powerful than the listed rating.
It is possible to blind a NVG user, but I wouldn't rely on it as a tactic. You may think you're being clever just to realize you exposed yourself to a group of people all using expensive Gen 3 NVG, which quickly pelt you with a few cases of paint.
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